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The Dell™ OpenManage™ 6.1 suite of systems management tools is available and ready to help you manage your Dell PowerEdge™ 11th-generation servers. Learn where to get the best information to help you with a successful deployment of OpenManage IT Assistant.
Technical Community - Background Reading
- IT Assistant 8.4 User's Guide
- Dell OpenManage Server Administrator documentation
Chat Transcript
| KongY-Dell | Welcome Xavier |
| KongY-Dell | Welcome Erson. Congrats on being inducted to the Dell TechCenter Hall of Fame |
| erson | Thanks |
| KongY-Dell | Well deserved BTW |
| erson | Just updated my profile a bit with an avatar and some information about myself. Jonathan said you guys would update the announcement a bit when I added an avatar, etc. |
| KongY-Dell | @erson, yes that should happen shortly |
| KongY-Dell | @xavier, if you don't mind me asking, what's your role at Xavier? |
| KongY-Dell | Hi there Jeff. Jeff is our Linux and Storage guru |
| Xavier | SAN *nix and system design |
| erson | OpenManage 6.1 = OMSA 6.0.3, or is the documentation not updated yet? |
| Dell-Jeff_Sullivan | Hola! |
| erson | Hi Jeff |
| KongY-Dell | @xavier, sweet |
| KongY-Dell | @erson, let me check |
| erson | Nice with two chats this week |
| erson | Hi D_glynn |
| KongY-Dell | Hi D_glynn |
| erson | Deduplication is an interesting topic |
| Dell-d_glynn | Hey all |
| Dell-Jeff_Sullivan | @erson, agreed on deduplication. Did you see the chat topic for Thursday? |
| erson | Yes |
| KongY-Dell | Welcome @asudduth. I've posed your question on Twitter to the engineering team; but my contacts are out of the office today and for most of this week :( Will try to get you something through a different team |
| KongY-Dell | Welcome Danocan |
| DanOCan | Hello |
| asudduth | @kongy_dell, thanks for letting me know |
| erson | Kongy, can we expect some EqualLogic announcements soon? |
| KongY-Dell | @erson, in terms of? |
| Dell-d_glynn | My thought exactly... |
| erson | I heard that support for 2 TB drives was coming and a smaller/simpler unit was in the line as well |
| KongY-Dell | @erson, I don't think that Dell is going to acquire Data Domain :) |
| erson | Have they accepted Netapp’s bid? |
| KongY-Dell | @erson, I haven't heard of any announcements yet. If they do come out, they'll probably be blogged here: http://en.community.dell.com/blogs/insideit/default.aspx |
| KongY-Dell | Welcome Bjb1964 |
| KongY-Dell | @erson, I'm not sure. Netapp did increase their bid to be greater than EMC's bid |
| KongY-Dell | Welcome Double8pex |
| double8pex | Hello |
| KongY-Dell | Welcome Khsieh |
| KongY-Dell | On a different subject than today's chat, Jeff Sullivan will be leading our Thursday chat on data deduplication: http://en.community.dell.com/blogs/insideit/archive/2009/06/05/the-future-of-data-deduplication.aspx |
| KongY-Dell | http://en.community.dell.com/blogs/dell_tech_center/archive/2009/06/05/deduplication-and-hi-i-m-jeff.aspx |
| KongY-Dell | Jeff will host this chat on Thursday at 3 PM CDT |
| KongY-Dell | Welcome Kents |
| KongY-Dell | Welcome Ally |
| KongY-Dell | As always, select Action, Recent Room History to see previous dialogue |
| KongY-Dell | Welcome Nitin. Welcome Vmdoug. Welcome Mr. Scott H |
| VMDoug | Thanks, good to be here |
| DELL-ScottH | Hey everybody! Sorry I'm late. Meeting with my manager on what I want to be when I grow up! :-) |
| DELL-ScottH | Doug! Good to see you |
| KongY-Dell | I think you should become a WSOP bracelet winner or a Quiznos franchisee ;) |
| DELL-ScottH | Alright, my watch says 3 o'clock. Let me send one final spam tweet |
| KongY-Dell | Hi there Mark |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | Howdy Kong! |
| VMDoug | Hi Mark |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | Howdy, Boss! |
| erson | Hi Scott |
| DELL-ScottH | Okay, couple of house keeping issues before we start the general chat. Today's chat is recorded; you can view the transcript the next day on this same link that got you to the chat page. Don't worry about copying URL links; they will be all lit up in the transcript tomorrow. And if you click a link today, use a right-click or the chat will most likely kick you out! You can use Action, Recent Room History to catch up if you get kicked out or join in late, and ask questions at anytime. You are not being rude by doing so...this is a chat :-) |
| DELL-ScottH | Hey Erson! Everyone, congrats to Erson, who is our newest TechCenter Hall of Fame inductee! www.delltechcenter.com/page/dell+techcenter+member+hall+of+fame |
| erson | /me takes a bow |
| KongY-Dell | Congrats Erson! |
| DELL-ScottH | Alright, welcome everyone to this week's chat session. Today's topic is OpenManage 6.1, which is not even out yet :-) |
| erson | Scott, you should update that Hall of Fame, now that I have an avatar and everything |
| DELL-ScottH | So you guys are getting some behind-the-scenes information today. You're welcome, and don't share too much :-) |
| DELL-ScottH | @erson, will fix it |
| erson | Also managed to jot down some text about myself |
| VMDoug | NDA stuff? |
| DELL-ScottH | It's a little NDAish, but I'm okay with a little leakage |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | Right-click fail, then Java fail...I am back |
| erson | /me expects that it relates to Windows 2008 and VMs |
| DELL-ScottH | So OpenManage is the umbrella under which all Dell systems management products fall. All the news lately has been around OpenManage Dell Management Console, but I wanted to make sure that everyone understood that IT Assistant, OMSA, and the rest of the old, tried and true OM 5.x products you love (or have a relationship with) are updated to 6.x for the Dell 11th-generation line of products |
| DELL-ScottH | Here's our OpenManage page on TechCenter: www.delltechcenter.com/page/openmanage+systems+management |
| DELL-ScottH | OpenManage 6.0.1, 6.0.2, and 6.0.3 have been out to support the new Dell 11th-generation line of servers. Download link: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?os=wnet&osl=en&catid=36&impid=-1&hidos=wnet&hidlang=en&systemid=pwe_r710 |
| erson | Is OMSA 6.0.3 part of OpenManage 6.1? |
| DELL-ScottH | Hmm, that will be fixed in the transcript. Look for OpenManage 6.1 to be released soon, very soon. I won't say exactly when, but if you live in the states you can have a little pre-fireworks celebration around the release date :-) |
| DELL-ScottH | So the new things in 6.1: support for Microsoft Windows Server 2008 with Service Pack (SP) 2. Support for Windows Server 2008 Foundation, support for Microsoft Internet Explorer version 8.0, and support for VMware ESXi 4.0 HDD and Flash Editions. Support for SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11, support for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 Server with Update 3, and support for these Dell Systems: PowerEdge T710, PowerEdge T410, and PowerEdge R410 |
| DELL-ScottH | I'll let that soak in for a second before telling a little more... |
| asudduth | Will that support Windows 2008 R2? |
| VMDoug | Hyper-V |
| asudduth | Vmdoug, good question, if yes, what about Hyper-V R2 (Windows 2008 R2) |
| DELL-ScottH | Okay, that was the list for 6.1 changes from 6.0.3 |
| VMDoug | But wait, there's more... |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | Good question, Doug |
| DELL-ScottH | The “more” is that IT Assistant will now be supported in a virtualized environment: ESX, Hyper-V, and Xen |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | All versions of ESX? |
| DELL-ScottH | ESX 3.5 U4, 4.0 and ESXi 3.5 U4 and 4 |
| DELL-ScottH | There is an extensive list and support matrix depending on if you are talking OMSA, DUPs, IT Assistant, etc. Will have it posted on release |
| erson | Is there an end-of-life (EOL) date for IT Assistant? |
| asudduth | On the download link I see 6.0.1 labeled 3/31/09. If I remember correctly we have/are trying to use 5.5.2, but I thought it was newer than 3/31. Maybe I'm confusing things |
| erson | Hmmm, early July then |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | What is the current shipping version of ESXi that comes with the 11th-generation servers? |
| DELL-ScottH | Late June |
| davidsinclair | Is OpenManage going to go EOL at some point because of Dell Management Console? |
| DELL-ScottH | @atx, 3.5 U4 |
| erson | Davidsinclair, Dell Management Console uses OMSA |
| DELL-ScottH | So like all good things, there is overlap in the end of IT Assistant and the birthing of Dell Management Console |
| dandill | It looks like I can't upgrade my IT Assistant 8.3 installation to 8.4 as the pre-req checker fails on my VM |
| DELL-ScottH | I can tell you that we are nowhere near the end of IT Assistant support or releases for a while, and, yes, Dell Management Console still uses OMSA for an agent, and it will be around also |
| DELL-ScottH | @dandill, what pre-req is failing? |
| dandill | It says it's “not a supported system” :/ |
| DELL-ScottH | What server model? |
| dandill | It's a VM |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | Where does the agent reside on ESXi boxes? |
| dandill | Running on Dell hardware |
| DELL-ScottH | On the ESXi boxes the 6.0.3 agent is built in |
| davidsinclair | Why are SC models not supported for installation of OMSA, and will they ever be supported? |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | Built in to the VMware kernel? |
| DELL-ScottH | @david, SC models by definition are lower-end, non-managed boxes. They are priced lower for that fact, and that's why they aren't supported. Trade-off for the price |
| double8pex | Can Dell Management Console questions be answered here? Or am I in the wrong chat session? |
| dandill | So, is there any way to run either of the Dell management consoles in a VM? |
| DELL-ScottH | @atx, yes in the kernel |
| DELL-ScottH | @dan, 6.1 is not released yet |
| DELL-ScottH | It is the version that supports running in a VM. Few weeks yet |
| dandill | Ah okay, 6.0.3 definitely won't let me upgrade |
| DELL-ScottH | Dell Management Console is a different story and support for running in a VM is a little further out...although, this link should help: http://en.community.dell.com/groups/dell_management_console/wiki/dmc-faq.aspx |
| durkinr | Scott, when 6.1 gets posted, how about you update your script posted here to install it in vSphere for me? I'm lazy |
| DELL-KentS | @dandill, IT Assistant should install fine in a VM |
| dandill | @kent, it doesn't; at least not the current 6.0.3. But I'm okay with waiting until 6.1. Thanks for the information, gents |
| DELL-KentS | @dandill, 6.0.3 is OMSA |
| dandill | I'm not going to argue with the fact that I just tried updating and it didn't let me do it. LOL |
| tonyhgras | It's okay to have management traffic merged with general traffic in the server’s NICs? |
| DELL-ScottH | @double, we are chatting OpenManage 6 today, but feel free to throw out any Dell Management Console questions, or post them here: http://en.community.dell.com/groups/dell_management_console/default.aspx |
| DELL-ScottH | @durkinr, I will definitely update the script; make sure it still works :-) Or, how about you update it for me, and I'll nominate you to our Hall of Fame? |
| DELL-ScottH | @tony, yes, you'll obviously have a separate network for out of band with the DRACs, but most customers have the management traffic running on a shared NIC |
| tonyhgras | I mean OMSA-Dell Management Console communications and server applications traffic over the same NICs |
| durkinr | I have too many scripts already (and I'm still lazy) |
| DELL-ScottH | @durkinr, okay I'll let you continue to be lazy; that's my job—to try to make your job easier :-) |
| tonyhgras | Isn't it a security risk? |
| DELL-ScottH | FYI, there is no change in the 6.1 interface...so all the demos on our site stay the same: www.delltechcenter.com/page/openmanage+demos |
| DELL-ScottH | @tony, encryption on the traffic; nothing is clear in the open |
| tonyhgras | Thanks, Scott, make sense |
| DELL-ScottH | If you work for the NSA, go ahead and make a separate network, I won't stop you |
| durkinr | Demos and videos are good. Why are all the videos [untitled]? That makes it difficult to find what I'm looking for! |
| DELL-ScottH | [untitled] where? |
| durkinr | www.delltechcenter.com/videos. All of the titles listed under the videos are [untitled] |
| DELL-ScottH | Oh, that's part of our Wetpaint provider provided video...I'll get that fixed, was not aware |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | Scott, what is the process of getting a free PowerVault M1000E? |
| DELL-ScottH | Use the main link: www.delltechcenter.com/page/demonstrations, organized by subject |
| DELL-ScottH | Lol, I think it would cost you more that just using money :-) |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | Had to try |
| durkinr | Thanks for that link |
| DELL-ScottH | Ah, the other essential resource: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/smsom/ |
| DELL-ScottH | Support documents! Use that link when you want to RTFM slap someone :-) |
| DELL-ScottH | The answer is definitely in there; I must say we have some really detailed documents |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | I love RTFMing! |
| DELL-ScottH | Alright, questions? |
| DELL-ScottH | So, OpenManage 6.1 is releasing soon, there’s support for IT Assistant in a VM, it supports all the 11th-generation hardware, and has the same interface you know and love—or like :-) |
| durkinr | Um, I can hardly wait? |
| DELL-ScottH | Congratulations again to Erson for being a great member of the community! www.delltechcenter.com/page/dell+techcenter+member+hall+of+fame |
| DELL-ScottH | I know, such excitement! Mainly wanted to make you all aware that IT Assistant is still actively developed, and you don't have to do Dell Management Console yet if you are on the sidelines. When you start down the Dell Management Console road, we are here, and you should bookmark this group to help you out: http://en.community.dell.com/groups/dell_management_console/default.aspx |
| durkinr | I've ordered new hardware to migrate from our PowerEdge 2650 running Altiris 6.5 to Altiris, er, Symantec 7.0 with Dell Management Console. You're welcome! |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | Congratulations, Durkin! |
| durkinr | *Thanks!* |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | The PowerEdge 2650 was a heck of a box back in the early 2000s |
| DELL-ScottH | W00t! thanks for the order! |
| DELL-ScottH | Hey, no making fun :-) |
| durkinr | That thing has been very reliable |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | Scott, I sold a ton of those back in the day |
| DELL-ScottH | I'll put you in a time machine and make you install Veeam on a Ppro 200 MHz! |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | I still have my PowerEdge 2450 here in my office |
| erson | What about support for Windows 2008 R2? |
| atxtraveler_on_twitter | Haven't you seen some of our Reporter Enterprise reports? There are plenty of PowerEdge 2550s, which surface on a good poll of the environment |
| durkinr | We were on Micron servers back then. Turned out to be a bad move, using Micron servers |
| DELL-ScottH | Micron, wow! That was my first real PC in college |
| DELL-ScottH | @erson, you are gone, but Windows 2008 R2 is not on the matrix. Will be in a point release |
| DELL-ScottH | Erson, use Action, Recent Room History to get your answer :-) |
| DELL-ScottH | One more thing for anyone reading the transcript—oldie but a goody: http://en.community.dell.com/blogs/dell_tech_center/archive/2008/02.aspx |
| DELL-ScottH | This link will help explain all the OpenManage acronyms |
| DELL-ScottH | Alright, thanks to everyone for joining in the chat today; if you have any questions, ask them directly on this page when the transcript is posted |
| erson | Scotth, great. Is it not possible to install OMSA on Windows 2008 R2 at all, or is it just not supported? |
| DELL-ScottH | It's testing statement. I haven't tried it yet, but our servers are trickling in, so will have some thoughts in a few weeks. Reminder, we have a chat hosted by Jeff on Thursday for Dell Deduplication solutions: www.delltechcenter.com/page/06-11-09+dell+deduplication+solutions |
| DELL-ScottH | Thanks all ! |
| KongY-Dell | Thank you everyone! |
| erson | Sleep is needed, I'm out! |
